Prej vitesh me humorin e tij, s\u00eb fundmi edhe me pjes\u00ebmarrjen n\u00eb \u201cBBV\u201d, Elvis Pupa \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb nga personazhet m\u00eb t\u00eb dashur p\u00ebr publikun.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pas nuk mbetet as partnerja e tij, Belina Pupa e cila s\u00eb fundmi ka b\u00ebr\u00eb nj\u00eb rr\u00ebfim ndryshe p\u00ebr podkastin \u201cZ\u00eb me Mir\u00ebn\u201d. N\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb rrefim t\u00eb saj Belina tregon nga njohja me Visin tek planet p\u00ebr f\u00ebmij\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Pjes\u00eb nga intervista:<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Kur u thash\u00eb disa miqve q\u00eb do t\u00eb t\u00eb kisha n\u00eb podcast, automatikisht merrja reagimin nga ata: Bashk\u00eb me Vis Pup\u00ebn? Pa Vis Pup\u00ebn. Belina ka shum\u00eb gj\u00ebra p\u00ebr t\u00eb treguar p\u00ebr veten e saj. Ideja e k\u00ebtij podcasti Bela \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00eb ne t\u00eb gjejm\u00eb njer\u00ebz q\u00eb kan\u00eb histori p\u00ebr t\u00eb treguar, jo vet\u00ebm p\u00ebr nga fama e tyre. Pavar\u00ebsisht se ti n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri njihesh m\u00eb shum\u00eb p\u00ebr nga Visi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Po. Nusja e Vis Pup\u00ebs. Faktikisht un\u00eb kam em\u00ebr. Belina Pupa. Mbiemri \u00ebsht\u00eb i Visit, po emri \u00ebsht\u00eb i imi (qesh). M\u00eb p\u00eblqen edhe me zor kam prit, sepse je ti.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Do ta nisim me ty 12 vje\u00e7. N\u00eb Shkod\u00ebr, n\u00eb 1998-\u00ebn kur bashk\u00eb me familjen, me motr\u00ebn dhe me n\u00ebn\u00ebn nisesh p\u00ebr t`iu bashkuar babait q\u00eb ishte emigrant n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb, n\u00eb Detroit. Pas kaq shum\u00eb vitesh, kur e sheh n\u00eb perspektiv\u00eb, ti je rritur, je edukuar, je shkolluar, ke punuar\u2026 Ishte fat q\u00eb shkove n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb apo ndonj\u00ebher\u00eb ke raste kur thua: Ndoshta t\u00eb kisha q\u00ebndruar k\u00ebtu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Them se ishte shum\u00eb fat i madh. Ishte shum\u00eb mir\u00eb q\u00eb ne ik\u00ebm. Po n\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebn koh\u00eb, si\u00e7 ishte shum\u00eb mir\u00eb, kishte edhe v\u00ebshtir\u00ebsit\u00eb e veta. Aq shum\u00eb sa kemi p\u00ebrfituar, aq na ka munguar edhe vendi yn\u00eb, rrethi i ngusht\u00eb, familja, shoq\u00ebria. Fakti q\u00eb un\u00eb kam ikur n\u00eb mosh\u00eb aq t\u00eb vog\u00ebl, 12 vje\u00e7, n\u00eb klas\u00ebn e shtat\u00eb pak a shum\u00eb\u2026 dhe kur ishim n\u00eb shkoll\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb ishim nga klasa e par\u00eb shok\u00eb e shoqe. Gjith\u00eb ky rrethi, familja, shoq\u00ebria, ti i l\u00eb mbrapa. Fillon nj\u00eb jet\u00eb t\u00eb re ku duhet t\u00eb b\u00ebsh miq t\u00eb rinj. Shoq\u00ebria jote b\u00ebhet edhe familja jote. Se ti ke munges\u00eb. Un\u00eb n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb kam pasur familjen time, xhaxhallar\u00ebt. Po shumica e njer\u00ebzve nuk e kan\u00eb pasur fatin tim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Gj\u00ebja e par\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebri p\u00ebrshtypje n\u00eb Detroit kur shkove?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Ne kemi shkuar atje n\u00eb N\u00ebntor edhe s`e harroj kurr\u00eb kur ishim nga aeroporti p\u00ebr n\u00eb sht\u00ebpi, shikoja vet\u00ebm bor\u00eb, bor\u00eb, bor\u00eb, bor\u00eb. Na u duk nj\u00eb lumturi: Ua sa bukur qenka k\u00ebtu. Pastaj ajo bora vjen edhe t\u00eb m\u00ebrzitet se thua kur po pushon. Se vazhdon ashtu. Detroit \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb qytet shum\u00eb i ftoht\u00eb. Po p\u00ebrve\u00e7 klim\u00ebs q\u00eb e ka t\u00eb ashp\u00ebr, kam pasur shum\u00eb jet\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb n\u00eb Detroit. Kam punuar shum\u00eb me familjen. Familja jon\u00eb, n\u00ebna, baba, motra, kemi qen\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00eb bashkuar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Edhe \u2018axhat\u2019.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Po, edhe xhaxhallar\u00ebt. Ata ishin rrethi yn\u00eb i dyt\u00eb. Ishin gjithmon\u00eb n\u00eb sofrat tona. Mblidheshim t\u00eb gjith\u00eb bashk\u00eb edhe k\u00ebndonim n\u00eb tavolin\u00eb. Sot burri im m\u00eb thot\u00eb: Sa mir\u00eb i di ti k\u00ebto k\u00ebng\u00ebt e vjetra. I them, jam rritur me axhat, me babin q\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb k\u00ebndojn\u00eb n\u00eb tavolin\u00eb kur han\u00eb buk\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Mua m\u00eb duket sikur jasht\u00eb ka nj\u00eb tendenc\u00eb edhe m\u00eb shum\u00eb p\u00ebr t`i ruajtur traditat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Patjet\u00ebr. Ne e quajm\u00eb sikur jetojm\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb \u201ctime capsule\u201d. Se ato gj\u00ebrat q\u00eb i kemi l\u00ebn\u00eb n\u00eb vendin ton\u00eb, ashtu i mbajm\u00eb. I marrim me vete dhe nuk i harrojn\u00eb, madje i p\u00ebrforcojm\u00eb tek f\u00ebmij\u00ebt tan\u00eb, tek nip\u00ebr mbesa. Nipi, mbesa ime kan\u00eb m\u00ebsuar shqip prej k\u00ebng\u00ebve dhe humorit q\u00eb kemi par\u00eb. Mbesa ime kat\u00ebr vje\u00e7e ka m\u00ebsuar nga \u201cPortokallia\u201d p\u00ebr t\u00eb folur shqip.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Ka m\u00ebsuar nga Visi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Po nga Visi (qesh). Po Detroit apo Amerika p\u00ebr mua ka qen\u00eb baz\u00eb e mir\u00eb, sepse atje jam shkolluar, kam punuar shum\u00eb, atje kam pasur eksperienca t\u00eb ndryshme pune. N\u00eb koh\u00ebn q\u00eb isha n\u00eb Universitet kam b\u00ebr\u00eb eksperienca t\u00eb ndryshme pun\u00ebsh. N\u00eb higjien\u00eb dentare kam punuar asistente, kam lar\u00eb pjata, kam punuar kameriere, kam punuar n\u00eb real estate. Mendoj sa m\u00eb shum\u00eb pun\u00eb t\u00eb ndryshme t\u00eb b\u00ebj\u00eb nj\u00eb njeri, aq m\u00eb shum\u00eb eksperienca ka dhe aq m\u00eb i p\u00ebrgatitur \u00ebsht\u00eb ta p\u00ebrballoj\u00eb jet\u00ebn. Edhe an\u00ebn sociale m\u00eb shum\u00eb, sepse punon me njer\u00ebz t\u00eb ndrysh\u00ebm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Kulmin e pate n\u00eb Real Estate si agjente n\u00eb koh\u00ebn kur ishte kriza financiare e shekullit, n\u00eb 2008-\u00ebn, n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Ishim nj\u00eb skuad\u00ebr q\u00eb punonim n\u00eb \u201cCentury 21\u201d. Kemi pasur shum\u00eb sukses p\u00ebr gati 12 vite. Kemi b\u00ebr\u00eb qejf, sepse kur ndodhi kriza, ne ishim t\u00eb par\u00ebt q\u00eb ishim n\u00eb fush\u00ebn e Real Estate. Disa njer\u00ebz kishin shum\u00eb fat me kriz\u00ebn, disa t\u00eb tjer\u00eb kan\u00eb humbur \u00e7do gj\u00eb. \u201cRight place, right time\u201d, ishte p\u00ebr mua. Mbas asaj jam njohur me Visin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Do shkojm\u00eb tek Visi, por do rrim\u00eb edhe pak k\u00ebtu. Do shkojm\u00eb se s`ka kuptim historia jote pa Visin (qesh). M\u00eb intrigon ky moment, sesi nj\u00eb kriz\u00eb, p\u00ebr dik\u00eb sjell fat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Ne kemi pasur nj\u00eb shprehje k\u00ebtu n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri, e thoshte gjyshja ime. N\u00ebqoft\u00ebse ti si ke lek\u00ebt p\u00ebr t\u00eb bler\u00eb di\u00e7ka, mos merr kredi. Ne e kemi pasur, n\u00ebse s`i ke lek\u00ebt p\u00ebr ta bler\u00eb kalin, mos e bli kalin. Mos i merr lek\u00ebt borxh, ka qen\u00eb ideja. Ne si emigrant\u00eb n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb kemi kursyer. Nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb se n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb kemi b\u00ebr\u00eb ndonj\u00eb jet\u00eb luksi. Jo, jeta ime n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb ka qen\u00eb shkoll\u00eb, pun\u00eb, gjum\u00eb. Shkoll\u00eb, pun\u00eb, gjum\u00eb dhe n\u00eb fundjav\u00eb, mbase nj\u00eb dit\u00eb t\u00eb shtune ishte dita q\u00eb sistemoja gjith\u00eb rrobat \u00e7far\u00eb do vishja gjat\u00eb jav\u00ebs tjet\u00ebr. E diela mund t\u00eb ishte nj\u00eb piknik me familjen. Aq kemi pasur. Nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb se kemi shijuar jet\u00ebn n\u00eb emigrim p\u00ebr t\u00eb th\u00ebn\u00eb q\u00eb kemi b\u00ebr\u00eb jet\u00eb qejfi. Nuk kemi b\u00ebr\u00eb jet\u00eb qejfi. Kemi b\u00ebr\u00eb jet\u00eb pune. Kemi pasur shum\u00eb gj\u00ebra n\u00eb an\u00ebn materiale, por ana sociale\u2026 Vetmia t\u00eb mbyt. Pavar\u00ebsisht se ke gjith\u00eb k\u00ebta njer\u00ebzit rreth teje, ke nevoj\u00eb p\u00ebr mosh\u00ebn t\u00ebnde. Ke nevoj\u00eb p\u00ebr shok\u00eb e shoqe. Nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb se nuk i kemi pasur. Se un\u00eb jam rritur atje me \u00e7dolloj race. Q\u00eb tek indiani, tek afgani, tek europiani. \u00cbsht\u00eb si \u201cMelting Pop\u201d, nj\u00eb kultur\u00eb q\u00eb i p\u00ebrzien t\u00eb gjith\u00eb bashk\u00eb. Kjo ka qen\u00eb nj\u00eb gj\u00eb shum\u00eb e mir\u00eb, sepse gjithmon\u00eb kam dashur t\u00eb jem nj\u00eb shtetas i bot\u00ebs, jo shtetas i Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb, ose i Amerik\u00ebs. Ne sot jetojm\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb kultur\u00eb q\u00eb marrim t\u00eb gjith\u00eb nga nj\u00ebri-tjetri. \u00c7far\u00eb ke d\u00ebshir\u00eb t\u00eb marr\u00ebsh ti \u00ebsht\u00eb krejt\u00ebsisht kapaciteti yt, se \u00e7far\u00eb vlen tek jeta jote. Si\u00e7 kultura jon\u00eb ka shum\u00eb tradita t\u00eb mira, ashtu kan\u00eb edhe kulturat e njer\u00ebzve t\u00eb tjer\u00eb dhe mundesh t`i p\u00ebrvet\u00ebsosh, edhe t`i b\u00ebsh pjes\u00eb t\u00eb jet\u00ebs. Varet \u00e7far\u00eb k\u00ebrkon ti si individ. Edhe opsionet jan\u00eb kudo. Fakti q\u00eb ne ishim nj\u00eb familje q\u00eb kishim ardhur nga nje vend i varf\u00ebr, si\u00e7 ishte n\u00eb at\u00eb koh\u00eb p\u00ebr ne Shqip\u00ebria ku pak a shum\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00eb kishin nj\u00eb nivel, o klas\u00eb e mesme\u2026 N\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri babin e kam pasur aviator. Mamin e kam pasur llogaritare. Ishin njer\u00ebz me shkoll\u00eb dhe pun\u00eb t\u00eb mira. N\u00eb Amerik\u00eb babai im arriti t\u00eb laj\u00eb pjata. N\u00ebna ime pastronte hotele.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Historia pak a shum\u00eb e t\u00eb gjith\u00eb emigrant\u00ebve shqiptar\u00eb. E emigrant\u00ebve n\u00eb p\u00ebrgjith\u00ebsi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Po ishte nj\u00eb sakrific\u00eb shum\u00eb e mir\u00eb p\u00ebr mua dhe motr\u00ebn time, sepse neve na dha krah\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb shkuar n\u00eb shkoll\u00eb. Kemi punuar shum\u00eb bashk\u00eb. T\u00ebr\u00eb jeta e prind\u00ebrve t\u00eb mi ishim un\u00eb dhe motra q\u00eb t\u00eb edukoheshim, t\u00eb shkolloheshim, t\u00eb b\u00ebnim di\u00e7ka me veten. Ta b\u00ebnim jet\u00ebn n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb si\u00e7 ata e kishin b\u00ebr\u00eb n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri me arritjet e tyre.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Ke qen\u00eb shum\u00eb e lidhur me babain, i cili nuk jeton m\u00eb, p\u00ebr fat t\u00eb keq. Tani \u00ebsht\u00eb mami n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb me motr\u00ebn. Ti je n\u00eb Adelaide, n\u00eb Australi. P\u00ebr \u00e7far\u00eb t\u00eb vjen m\u00eb shum\u00eb keq q\u00eb babi s`\u00ebsht\u00eb tani? Padyshim q\u00eb humbja e nj\u00eb prindi \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb boshll\u00ebk i madh, por kur shikon jet\u00ebn tuaj t\u00eb stabilizuar\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: T\u00eb them t\u00eb drejt\u00ebn q\u00eb n\u00eb momentin q\u00eb kam humbur babain un\u00eb e shikoj jet\u00ebn n\u00eb nj\u00eb priz\u00ebm komplet tjet\u00ebr. Si\u00e7 ka qen\u00eb nj\u00eb humbje shum\u00eb e madhe, q\u00eb e kam vuajtur, m\u00eb ka l\u00ebn\u00eb nj\u00eb mesazh shum\u00eb t\u00eb madh babai, q\u00eb jeta duhet t\u00eb shijohet dhe duhet t\u00eb jesh vetvetja gjithmon\u00eb. Babai im ka qen\u00eb nj\u00eb pjes\u00eb e madhe e jet\u00ebs time dhe ka qen\u00eb shoku im m\u00eb i mir\u00eb. Me t\u00eb s`kam pasur nevoj\u00eb t\u00eb flisja shum\u00eb se kuptoheshim me sy. Ikja e babait m\u00eb ka lodhur shum\u00eb. P\u00ebr nj\u00eb periudh\u00eb kohe kalova n\u00eb depresion. Pavar\u00ebsisht se prej pun\u00ebs q\u00eb b\u00ebj, un\u00eb nj\u00eb vit e gjysm\u00eb isha shum\u00eb keq. Tani jam shum\u00eb m\u00eb mir\u00eb. Po dhimbja \u00ebsht\u00eb aty. Vdekja vjen me dallg\u00eb. N\u00eb sensin q\u00eb dhimbja nga vdekja kur humb nj\u00eb njeri shum\u00eb t\u00eb af\u00ebrt jan\u00eb si dallg\u00ebt e detit dhe ndonj\u00ebher\u00eb t\u00eb vjen t\u00eb qash. Pastaj thua, pse jam duke qar\u00eb? Un\u00eb isha mir\u00eb. Po k\u00ebshtu \u00ebsht\u00eb vuajtja, zem\u00ebrimi. Nuk na ik\u00ebn kurr\u00eb m\u00ebrzia p\u00ebr njer\u00ebzit q\u00eb humbim. Un\u00eb babain gjithmon\u00eb mundohem ta kujtoj me mesazhet pozitive dhe \u00e7far\u00eb m\u00eb ka th\u00ebn\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebj p\u00ebr jet\u00ebn time. Nj\u00eb nga mesazhet q\u00eb m\u00eb ka l\u00ebn\u00eb amanet ishte: T\u00eb lutem qet\u00ebsohu! Sepse energjit\u00eb i kam\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: E thot\u00eb edhe Visi tani\u2026 Ai mir\u00eb ka th\u00ebn\u00eb po ty k\u00ebshtu t\u00eb shkon.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: T`i kthehem pyetjes t\u00ebnde, kur m\u00eb vdiq babai, un\u00eb prita q\u00eb n\u00ebna t\u00eb ishte edhe babai, edhe n\u00ebna. Ishte pritshm\u00ebria ime. P\u00ebr shum\u00eb koh\u00eb isha shum\u00eb e m\u00ebrzitur me n\u00ebn\u00ebn. P\u00ebr \u00e7do gj\u00eb m\u00ebrzitesha me t\u00eb, sepse pritshm\u00ebrit\u00eb e mia p\u00ebr n\u00ebn\u00ebn ishin shum\u00eb t\u00eb m\u00ebdha. Nuk e pranoja q\u00eb m\u00eb kishte humbur babai. Tani jam shum\u00eb mir\u00eb dhe mendoj se n\u00eb jet\u00eb duhet t\u00eb jemi sa m\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb. N\u00ebse je vetvetja dhe je i v\u00ebrtet\u00eb nuk ka asnj\u00eb gj\u00eb n\u00eb bot\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb m\u00ebrzit, q\u00eb t\u00eb tundon q\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebn t\u00eb b\u00ebn t\u00eb b\u00ebsh di\u00e7ka q\u00eb nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb e jotja, kur ti je i sigurt\u00eb tek vetja. Kur ti e di se \u00e7far\u00eb k\u00ebrkon, se \u00e7far\u00eb do, duhet t\u00eb jesh i v\u00ebrtet\u00eb. Edhe ke jet\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00eb qet\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Me mamin si e ke raportin tani?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Shum\u00eb mir\u00eb. Mamin e kam l\u00ebn\u00eb n\u00eb sht\u00ebpi tani.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: \u00cbsht\u00eb n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Po \u00ebsht\u00eb n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri. Ka ardhur t\u00eb q\u00ebndroj\u00eb k\u00ebtu, sepse kishte dasm\u00eb dhe vija un\u00eb. U takuam, ajo nga Amerika, un\u00eb nga Australia. Ajo \u00ebsht\u00eb ok. Ashtu vazhdon e m\u00ebrzitur, por q\u00eb g\u00ebzon se na ka neve.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb e leht\u00eb humbja e partnerit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Kam edhe nj\u00eb nip dhe nj\u00eb mbes\u00eb q\u00eb i dua shum\u00eb. Ata na k\u00ebnaqin neve dhe ne p\u00ebr ata jetojm\u00eb. \u00c7do gj\u00eb q\u00eb ne b\u00ebjm\u00eb kemi qejf q\u00eb ata ta transmetojn\u00eb tek jeta e tyre. T\u00eb ken\u00eb nj\u00eb jet\u00eb t\u00eb g\u00ebzuar dhe t\u00eb jen\u00eb qytetar\u00eb t\u00eb denj\u00eb. Njer\u00ebz t\u00eb mir\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Duket nj\u00eb njeri q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb rritur n\u00eb per\u00ebndim \u2018qytetar\u00eb t\u00eb denj\u00eb\u2019. Nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb pasuria, nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb fama, nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb suksesi q\u00eb t`i jep t\u00eb gjitha. M\u00eb p\u00eblqeu shum\u00eb kjo. Kur t\u00eb takova m\u00eb b\u00ebri shum\u00eb p\u00ebrshtypje se m\u00eb fole me po aq dashuri, edhe shum\u00eb me empati p\u00ebr vjehrrin t\u00ebnd, p\u00ebr babain e Visit, i cili \u00ebsht\u00eb ndar\u00eb nga jeta dy-tre vjet m\u00eb par\u00eb. M\u00eb the nj\u00eb shprehje shum\u00eb t\u00eb goditur do thoja.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Babai i Visit p\u00ebr mua ka qen\u00eb shum\u00eb shok. Kishte nj\u00eb energji q\u00eb transmetonte gjithmon\u00eb\u2026 ka pasur nj\u00eb filt\u00ebr q\u00eb ishte gjithmon\u00eb si \u2018happy kid\u2019. \u00c7far\u00ebdo q\u00eb mendonte, ta thoshte. Nuk \u00ebshte se kishte filt\u00ebr. Kur i b\u00ebja ndonj\u00ebher\u00eb un\u00eb flok\u00ebt ka\u00e7urrela thoshte: \u201cK\u00ebshtu nuk t\u00eb shkojn\u00eb fare. S`m\u00eb p\u00eblqen\u201d. Ishte shum\u00eb i sinqert\u00eb dhe kisha nj\u00eb raport me t\u00eb. Kur ai iku, m`u duk sikur mua m\u00eb vdiq babai. Pastaj kur humba babain, kuptova \u00e7far\u00eb dometh\u00ebn\u00eb v\u00ebrtet t\u00eb t\u00eb vdes\u00eb babai. Them q\u00eb ka qen\u00eb nj\u00eb humbje shum\u00eb e madhe p\u00ebr mua dhe Visin q\u00eb t\u00eb dy nuk i kemi m\u00eb baballar\u00ebt, por q\u00eb humbja e tyre na ka lidhur shum\u00eb m\u00eb shum\u00eb, sepse i kemi kaluar bashk\u00eb. I kemi kaluar bashk\u00eb qarjet. I kemi kaluar bashk\u00eb g\u00ebzimet. I kemi kaluar bashk\u00eb momentet. Dhe them se asnj\u00eb gj\u00eb n\u00eb bot\u00eb nuk t\u00eb p\u00ebrgatit t\u00eb humbas\u00ebsh nj\u00eb prind.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Edhe kur je psikologe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Po, edhe kur je psikologe. N\u00eb bot\u00eb, kur ne lindin, dy avokat\u00ebt n\u00eb tok\u00eb jan\u00eb n\u00ebna dhe babai. Jan\u00eb me fat njer\u00ebzit q\u00eb mund t`i ken\u00eb edhe n\u00ebn\u00ebn edhe babain. Neve q\u00eb i kemi pasur apo i kemi akoma t\u00eb dy prind\u00ebrit, jemi shum\u00eb me fat, sido qofshin ata. S`ka asnj\u00eb prind perfekt. S`ka asnj\u00eb f\u00ebmij\u00eb perfekt. Asnj\u00eb nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb perfekt. Bota mund t\u00eb imagjinohet si dy f\u00ebmij\u00eb q\u00eb kan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb nj\u00eb f\u00ebmij\u00eb. Kujtdo prindi nj\u00eb mesazh n\u00ebse mund t`ia jap. N\u00ebse e shohin podcast-in tim, q\u00eb do e shohin, e di, \u00ebsht\u00eb q\u00eb sa m\u00eb fjal\u00eb pozitive tek f\u00ebmija. F\u00ebmij\u00ebs duhet t`i b\u00ebrtas\u00ebsh ndoshta kur b\u00ebn gabim. Po f\u00ebmij\u00ebt duhet t`i thuash edhe je shum\u00eb mir\u00eb, kur \u00ebsht\u00eb mir\u00eb. Se pak a shum\u00eb prind\u00ebrit shqiptar\u00eb ose kultura jon\u00eb e kemi pak q\u00eb themi: T`i b\u00ebrtas nj\u00ebher\u00eb q\u00eb ta ket\u00eb. Se kur ta thyej\u00eb got\u00ebn, s`kam \u00e7far\u00eb i b\u00ebrtas m\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Para-b\u00ebrtitje. Para-presion. E kemi kultur\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb n\u00eb shoq\u00ebrin\u00eb ton\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Ne jemi shum\u00eb t\u00eb dashur, por jemi dhe shum\u00eb t\u00eb dhunsh\u00ebm. I kemi t\u00eb dyja bashk\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Do ndryshojn\u00eb gj\u00ebrat. Po ndryshojn\u00eb shum\u00eb. Gjenerata e prind\u00ebrve t\u00eb rinj ka ndryshuar. Ne jemi f\u00ebmij\u00ebt e prind\u00ebrve q\u00eb na kan\u00eb para-b\u00ebrtitur. E kishim n\u00eb xhep.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Edhe me k\u00ebta prind\u00ebrit q\u00eb jan\u00eb gjithmon\u00eb\u2026. Nuk jam dakord. Do thot\u00eb shumica, \u00e7far\u00eb di ti, se ti s`ke f\u00ebmij\u00eb? Un\u00eb flas me teori. Me teori jam e papar\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Je eksperte, t\u00eb takon t\u00eb flas\u00ebsh.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Edhe si teze, jam teze shum\u00eb e mir\u00eb. Besoj, se ashtu m\u00eb thon\u00eb. Mendoj se prind\u00ebrit shqiptar\u00eb, sidomos brezi yn\u00eb q\u00eb jan\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb prind\u00ebr tashm\u00eb po rritin f\u00ebmij\u00eb t\u00eb mrekulluesh\u00ebm. Un\u00eb e kam pak me ata prind\u00ebr q\u00eb ngaq\u00eb shum\u00eb gj\u00ebra na kan\u00eb munguar neve, ndoshta dashuria, ose afrimiteti, ose t\u00eb na thonin prind\u00ebrit: \u2018T\u00eb lumt\u00eb dora\u2019, p\u00ebrher\u00eb\u2026 Un\u00eb jam veriore, jam rritur n\u00eb Shkod\u00ebr. Ne verior\u00ebt mbahemi q\u00eb: H\u00eb se s`po ia them fjal\u00ebn e mir\u00eb se i rritet mendja. Ose mbase prindi im ka qen\u00eb ashtu: S`ia them fjal\u00ebn e mir\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Shkodran\u00ebt e kan\u00eb shprehjen \u201cT\u00eb hypt\u00eb vetja n\u00eb qejf\u201d. T\u00eb mallkojn\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Mallkim me t\u00eb hyp vetja n\u00eb qejf. Po k\u00ebta prind\u00ebr sot jan\u00eb duke rritur f\u00ebmij\u00eb t\u00eb mrekulluesh\u00ebm, por edhe shum\u00eb liberal\u00eb. Liri e tep\u00ebrt. Gjith\u00e7ka n\u00eb ekstrem nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb mir\u00eb. Liria e tep\u00ebrt nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb mir\u00eb. Qortimi i tep\u00ebrt nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb mir\u00eb. Uroj q\u00eb t\u00eb gjejn\u00eb nj\u00eb t\u00eb mesme t\u00eb art\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: E mesmja e art\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb e mira e k\u00ebsaj bote.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Shoh ndonj\u00ebher\u00eb q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb f\u00ebmija 10 vje\u00e7 edhe e merr prindin p\u00ebrpara. Kam disa shoqe q\u00eb u them: Pash\u00eb Zotin a vet\u00ebm ju keni b\u00ebr\u00eb f\u00ebmij\u00eb? Po ne t\u00eb tjer\u00ebt?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Kurioze jam sesi do t\u00eb b\u00ebhen prind\u00ebr k\u00ebta f\u00ebmij\u00ebt e sot\u00ebm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Edhe un\u00eb jam shum\u00eb kurioze.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Mbetet p\u00ebr t`u par\u00eb. Mbase do t\u00eb jet\u00eb gj\u00eb e mir\u00eb. Un\u00eb besoj tek masa e gj\u00ebrave. Masa \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb e mir\u00eb. Si p\u00ebr mir\u00eb, si p\u00ebr keq, \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb i bukur ai ekuilibri.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Visin e kam takuar komplet rast\u00ebsisht n\u00eb nj\u00eb moment q\u00eb as e kam menduar. Hera e par\u00eb q\u00eb vija n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri mbas 10 viteve n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb. Isha n\u00eb Velipoj\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: 24. 25 jemi fejuar me Visin. 24 kam qen\u00eb kur jemi takuar p\u00ebr her\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb. Kemi kaluar nj\u00eb dit\u00eb t\u00eb gjith\u00ebn bashk\u00eb. H\u00ebngr\u00ebm drek\u00eb. Kemi shkuar n\u00eb dark\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb club, pastaj nuk kishte as num\u00ebr telefoni, asgj\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: U puth\u00ebt at\u00eb dit\u00eb?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Jo, fare. Thjesht e shikoja q\u00eb po m\u00eb jepte shum\u00eb muhabet, po thoja: Ok, qenka shum\u00eb djali i mir\u00eb dhe un\u00eb po i jap muhabet. Se ne t\u00eb huajt k\u00ebshtu vdesim t\u00eb flasim. Se dim\u00eb ku jemi n\u00eb mes. Jemi t\u00eb huaj, jemi shqiptar\u00eb a \u00e7far\u00eb jemi. (qesh)<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: E dije q\u00eb ishte Vis Pupa i \u201cPortokallis\u00eb\u201d apo jo?!<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Po, e dija se e kisha par\u00eb. E kisha shum\u00eb qejf. E thash\u00eb, mbesa ime ka m\u00ebsuar shqip me Visin, me rolin e Avdiut. Un\u00eb ika n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb. Ai ishte n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Si e gjeti numrin e telefonit?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: N\u00eb at\u00eb koh\u00eb sa kishte filluar Facebook. S`ka qen\u00eb Instagrami. M\u00eb kishte d\u00ebrguar nj\u00eb mesazh: \u201cJam Visi. T\u00eb lutem ma jep numrin e telefonit, sepse jam n\u00eb Ne\u00eb York edhe t\u00eb b\u00ebjm\u00eb pak thashetheme\u201d. Edhe Visi tip thashethemesh\u2026! (qesh) Visi vet\u00ebm p\u00ebr thashetheme nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb. Po kishte hallin t\u00eb merrte numrin. Ia d\u00ebrgova numrin direkt. Nuk e lash\u00eb t\u00eb priste. Nd\u00ebrsa ai m\u00eb la mua t\u00eb prisja kat\u00ebr or\u00eb gjoja duke b\u00ebr\u00eb si i r\u00ebnd\u00ebsish\u00ebm q\u00eb s`po e marr direkt n\u00eb telefon. Dhe kaq ishte, fillimi dhe mbarimi yn\u00eb. Filluam duke folur.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: U takuat n\u00eb New York?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Jo nuk u takuam at\u00ebher\u00eb. Thjesht shk\u00ebmbyem numrat. Ai u kthye n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Po pse nuk u takuat? Nuk ishe n\u00eb Ne\u00eb York?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Isha n\u00eb Detroit. Ishte koh\u00eb Christmas. Ai ishte me koncerte. M\u00eb ftoi t\u00eb shkoja n\u00eb Ne\u00eb York dhe e ftova dhe un\u00eb t\u00eb vinte n\u00eb Detroit, por b\u00ebm\u00eb k\u00ebshtu sikur: Jo, se do takohemi ndonj\u00ebher\u00eb tjet\u00ebr.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Cicmicet e fillimit. Po jan\u00eb t\u00eb bukura k\u00ebto. \u00cbsht\u00eb faz\u00eb e bukur.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Nj\u00eb gj\u00eb q\u00eb un\u00eb i kam k\u00ebrkuar Visit dhe ai mua dhe mendoj se lidhja jon\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb forcuar dhe ka vazhduar n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb lloj faze, sot jemi 14 vjet m\u00eb von\u00eb, \u00ebsht\u00eb se ne gjithmon\u00eb kemi k\u00ebrkuar transparenc\u00eb. Deri m\u00eb sot q\u00eb flas marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnia jon\u00eb vazhdon ashtu sepse neve kemi qejf q\u00eb secili, \u00e7far\u00ebdolloj gj\u00ebje t\u00eb jet\u00eb, sado i madh gabimi, e keqja, e mira, t\u00eb tregojm\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00ebn p\u00ebr jet\u00ebn ton\u00eb me nj\u00ebri-tjetrin. Kur ti s`ke sekrete n\u00eb \u00e7ift mendoj se \u00ebsht\u00eb di\u00e7ka shum\u00eb e shenjt\u00eb q\u00eb nj\u00eb marr\u00ebdh\u00ebnie t\u00eb vazhdoj\u00eb gjat\u00eb. Se martesa nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb thjesht se ke nj\u00eb burr\u00eb dhe ti je gruaja. Un\u00eb e mendoj martes\u00ebn si partnership, q\u00eb ti dhe partneri yt jeni dy shok\u00eb. Jeni dy individ\u00eb q\u00eb thjesht e keni jet\u00ebn bashk\u00eb. \u201cYou share your life together\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Jo t\u00eb gjith\u00eb ia dalin t\u00eb jen\u00eb shok\u00eb me ata q\u00eb duan dhe dashurojn\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Sepse nuk arrijn\u00eb t\u00eb l\u00ebshojn\u00eb frik\u00ebrat e veta, q\u00eb t`i besojn\u00eb nj\u00ebri-tjetrit dhe mos t`ia p\u00ebrdorin n\u00eb keq\u00ebsi fjal\u00ebt apo dob\u00ebsit\u00eb. A je i zoti q\u00eb dob\u00ebsit\u00eb partnerit t`ia b\u00ebsh t\u00eb vogla?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Shum\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb!<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Jo ta mundosh t\u00eb thuash: Se ti k\u00ebshtu ke b\u00ebr\u00eb. Ne kemi k\u00ebt\u00eb q\u00eb e p\u00ebrmendim. Ne kemi nj\u00eb ligj. N\u00ebse e kemi diskutuar nj\u00eb gj\u00eb, i kemi v\u00ebn\u00eb kapak. Nuk hapet m\u00eb ai diskutim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: \u00cbsht\u00eb nj\u00eb personazh n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb shum\u00eb i famsh\u00ebm duhet ta njoh\u00ebsh, b\u00ebn dhe podcaste. Nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb partner i mir\u00eb ai q\u00eb t\u00eb thot\u00eb fjal\u00eb t\u00eb bukura apo ai q\u00eb ti po b\u00ebn vet\u00ebm pushime, apo po martohet me ty. Partner i mir\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb ai q\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebn ty t\u00eb duash veten m\u00eb s\u00eb pari.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Edhe Visin prandaj vazhdoj ta dua dhe ta vler\u00ebsoj dhe t\u00eb flas me t\u00eb. Jo thjesht sepse \u00ebsht\u00eb partneri dhe burri im, por e kam tamam shok. Q\u00ebkur jam lidhur me Visin dhe deri m\u00eb sot, gjithmon\u00eb m\u00eb ka l\u00ebn\u00eb t\u00eb jem e lir\u00eb. E lir\u00eb n\u00eb kuptimin q\u00eb t\u00eb rritem n\u00eb profesion, t`i b\u00ebj gj\u00ebrat vet\u00eb, sa m\u00eb e lir\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Sa djal\u00eb i mir\u00eb dhe artist Visi. Fati yt. E ke merituar!<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Faleminderit! Mendoj se \u00e7do grua e meriton nj\u00eb mashkull si Visi. Thjesht \u00ebsht\u00eb \u00e7\u00ebshtje fati.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Kur t\u00eb takova m\u00eb the: Kur takova Visin m\u00ebsova dhe t\u00eb b\u00ebj qejf n\u00eb jet\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Po, sepse edhe jeta e tij si artist, udh\u00ebtime t\u00eb shumta, koncerte\u2026 M\u00eb ka hapur syt\u00eb p\u00ebr nj\u00eb realitet tjet\u00ebr q\u00eb ndoshta bota ime ka qen\u00eb sht\u00ebpi-shkoll\u00eb-pun\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Pak m\u00eb robotike, si\u00e7 \u00ebsht\u00eb Amerika n\u00eb fakt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Po, \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb. Po fakti q\u00eb un\u00eb edhe kam ardhur kam jetuar mbas disa viteve k\u00ebtu n\u00eb Tiran\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Jetove 2 vjet m\u00eb duket.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Dy vjet e gjysm\u00eb, gati 3 me sa mbaj mend. Visi m\u00eb tha at\u00ebher\u00eb kur erdh\u00ebm n\u00eb Tiran\u00eb: Ti do t`i b\u00ebsh gj\u00ebrat vet\u00eb. Me makin\u00eb vet\u00eb. Kur fillova pun\u00eb k\u00ebtu n\u00eb Tiran\u00eb, q\u00eb isha pedagoge tek Universiteti i Drejt\u00ebsis\u00eb, duhet t\u00eb shkosh vet\u00eb, t\u00eb njihesh vet\u00eb me njer\u00ebzit, m\u00eb tha. Kjo mua m\u00eb ka b\u00ebr\u00eb ta kuptoj m\u00eb shum\u00eb mentalitetin shqiptar. Kur m\u00eb pyesin \u201cSi ishte eksperienca jote n\u00eb Tiran\u00eb?\u201d U them: T\u00eb m\u00eb jap\u00ebsh 2 milion\u00eb dollar\u00eb dhe t\u00eb m\u00eb thuash, ja ku i ke lek\u00eb apo i do eksperienc\u00eb, dua eksperienc\u00ebn. M\u00eb ka b\u00ebr\u00eb t\u00eb kuptoj mentalitetin shqiptar.
Mira Kazhani: \u00c7far\u00eb kuptove?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: M\u00eb p\u00eblqen fakti q\u00eb n\u00eb kultur\u00ebn ton\u00eb, ana sociale e jona, mjedisi yn\u00eb social ndoshta na e v\u00ebshtir\u00ebson jet\u00ebn shum\u00eb. Disa njer\u00ebz mund ta ken\u00eb t\u00eb v\u00ebshtir\u00eb, por ajo q\u00eb dashuroj n\u00eb vendin ton\u00eb \u2013 nuk dua t\u00eb fokusohem tek gj\u00ebrat q\u00eb nuk shkojn\u00eb \u2013 por ajo q\u00eb kam qejf \u00ebsht\u00eb se s`ka r\u00ebnd\u00ebsi sa i v\u00ebshtir\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb mjedisi, ka njer\u00ebz q\u00eb lul\u00ebzojn\u00eb gjithmon\u00eb. Ka njer\u00ebz q\u00eb nuk e humbin karakterin e vet, pavar\u00ebsisht se nuk e kan\u00eb an\u00ebn financiare apo ekonomike. Ka njer\u00ebz q\u00eb jan\u00eb t\u00eb drejt\u00eb pavar\u00ebsisht se luftojn\u00eb \u00e7do dit\u00eb me fatin e vet, luftojn\u00eb \u00e7do dit\u00eb me pun\u00ebn e vet, luftojn\u00eb \u00e7do dit\u00eb dhe nuk e humbin identitetin. Un\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb duartrokas n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Po m\u00eb thua q\u00eb askush nuk ka pse ta mbuloj\u00eb veten pas mjedisit dhe nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb produkt vet\u00ebm rrethanash. Pra njer\u00ebzit kan\u00eb n\u00eb dor\u00eb t\u00eb mos jen\u00eb vet\u00ebm produkt rrethanash. Mund ta \u00e7ajn\u00eb realitetin n\u00eb t\u00eb cilin jetojn\u00eb dhe ta ruajn\u00eb veten.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: N\u00eb momentin q\u00eb ti zgjohesh n\u00eb m\u00ebngjes, vendos me veten t\u00ebnde a do t\u00eb jesh nj\u00eb njeri pozitiv at\u00eb dit\u00eb? A do t\u00eb kesh nj\u00eb dit\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb? A do t\u00eb jesh negative? A do t\u00eb jesh e dhunshme? A do t\u00eb jesh e dashur? E vendosim ne n\u00eb m\u00ebngjes kur zgjohemi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Pra s`t\u00eb b\u00ebn shoq\u00ebria! S`t\u00eb b\u00ebn jeta!<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Un\u00eb mendoj q\u00eb ti b\u00ebn zgjedhjet e tua.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Ke ndonj\u00eb tundim p\u00ebr t\u00eb ardhur p\u00ebr t\u00eb jetuar k\u00ebtu prap\u00eb? Apo do ta b\u00ebsh k\u00ebshtu mes Australis\u00eb dhe Shqip\u00ebris\u00eb? M\u00eb duket se keni nj\u00eb plan p\u00ebr t\u00eb jetuar midis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Shqip\u00ebrin\u00eb s`kam qejf kurr\u00eb ta humb, sepse \u00ebsht\u00eb vendi yn\u00eb. Tre vitet q\u00eb kam jetuar k\u00ebtu nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb se kam b\u00ebr\u00eb ndonj\u00eb\u2026 eksperienca m\u00eb e bukur ka qen\u00eb fakti q\u00eb kam dh\u00ebn\u00eb veten time tek vendi im. Si pedagoge nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb se kam pasur ndonj\u00eb rrog\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb mbante jetes\u00ebn. Po e kam b\u00ebr\u00eb at\u00eb pun\u00eb p\u00ebr t\u00eb dh\u00ebn\u00eb veten time si qytetare e k\u00ebtij vendi p\u00ebr t\u00eb dh\u00ebn\u00eb at\u00eb q\u00eb un\u00eb di. \u201cTo give myself\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: T\u00eb jap\u00ebsh shembullin t\u00ebnd, frym\u00ebn t\u00ebnde\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Edhe student\u00ebve t\u00eb mi n\u00eb klas\u00eb u thosha: Un\u00eb nuk jam k\u00ebtu t`ju b\u00ebj juve l\u00ebnd\u00ebn. Un\u00eb dua t`ju b\u00ebj shtetas bote.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: T\u00eb donin shum\u00eb ata? T\u00eb shkruajn\u00eb?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Akoma m\u00eb shkruajn\u00eb. Kam disa student\u00eb q\u00eb akoma m\u00eb shkruajn\u00eb. K\u00ebshtu q\u00eb un\u00eb besoj. Besimin s`e humbas kurr\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Beson shum\u00eb n\u00eb Zot?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Them se besoj shum\u00eb. Kur kam qen\u00eb e vog\u00ebl jam rritur direkt mbas kish\u00ebs s\u00eb madhe n\u00eb Shkod\u00ebr. Sht\u00ebpia e gjyshes \u00ebsht\u00eb ngjitur me kish\u00ebn.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Komshije me kish\u00ebn. Interesante!<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Po nuk besoj se t\u00eb b\u00ebn feja. Besimi \u00ebsht\u00eb m\u00eb i madh se feja. Mund t\u00eb jesh Katolik, mund t\u00eb jesh Mysliman, mund t\u00eb jesh Budist, mund t\u00eb jesh \u00e7far\u00ebdo. Nuk ka r\u00ebnd\u00ebsi. Ka r\u00ebnd\u00ebsi t\u00eb kesh besim t\u00eb energjia jote, tek mir\u00ebsia jote. T\u00eb kesh besim tek ajo q\u00eb ti k\u00ebrkon \u00e7do dit\u00eb. N\u00ebqoft\u00ebse i ke v\u00ebn\u00eb nj\u00eb q\u00ebllim vetes t\u00eb v\u00ebsh gjith\u00eb energjin\u00eb si mund ta arrish q\u00ebllimin t\u00ebnd. Ky \u00ebsht\u00eb besimi im p\u00ebr t`u rritur, p\u00ebr t`u p\u00ebrmir\u00ebsuar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Ky \u00ebsht\u00eb Zoti yt!<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Ky \u00ebsht\u00eb Zoti im! Pavar\u00ebsisht se mund t\u00eb mbajm\u00eb nj\u00eb kryq\u2026 besimi \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb m\u00eb i thell\u00eb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Ku e kuptove k\u00ebt\u00eb ti, q\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb i till\u00eb besimi?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Eksperiencat e jet\u00ebs. Njer\u00ebzit q\u00eb takojm\u00eb o na e rrisin, o na e humbin besimin. Prandaj duhet t\u00eb fokusohesh tek karakteri dhe kapaciteti si individ. Sa e ke kapacitetin t\u00eb kalosh drejt v\u00ebshtir\u00ebsive dhe t\u00eb mbash prap\u00eb identitetin t\u00ebnd.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Un\u00eb dua t\u00eb ta b\u00ebj nj\u00eb pyetje. \u00cbsht\u00eb pak pyetje edhe e shoq\u00ebris\u00eb ton\u00eb. Edhe shpresoj q\u00eb t\u00eb mos e teproj. Ke t\u00eb drejt\u00eb ta \u2018skip\u2019-\u00ebsh, si\u00e7 thoni ju n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb. Po 14 vite shum\u00eb t\u00eb dashuruar, dukeni kaq t\u00eb lidhur, nj\u00eb f\u00ebmij\u00eb a ka qen\u00eb n\u00eb planet tuaja?<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Po, patjet\u00ebr. Ka qen\u00eb nj\u00eb periudh\u00eb kohe\u2026 Faktikisht f\u00ebmija u b\u00eb plan kur erdh\u00ebm k\u00ebtu n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri. Jo se nuk e kishim\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Po se pyesin k\u00ebtu t\u00eb gjith\u00eb<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Na e fut\u00ebn n\u00eb mend njer\u00ebzit m\u00eb shum\u00eb. \u201cAh sa t\u00eb mir\u00eb jeni. Po b\u00ebheni nj\u00eb f\u00ebmij\u00eb. B\u00ebjeni aman\u201d. K\u00ebtej n\u00eb telefon n\u00ebna: \u201cPo si ka mund\u00ebsi? \u00c7far\u00eb keni? Pse s`e b\u00ebni nj\u00eb f\u00ebmij\u00eb?\u201d T\u00eb gjith\u00eb me radh\u00eb. Ishte e vetmja gj\u00eb q\u00eb na shihnin n\u00eb \u00e7ift, q\u00eb mungonte. Nuk ishim plot\u00ebsuar. Edhe \u00ebsht\u00eb e v\u00ebrtet\u00eb. F\u00ebmija \u00ebsht\u00eb bekim. Lum ai q\u00eb i ka. Po neve nuk na erdhi. Ne jemi shum\u00eb t\u00eb sh\u00ebndetsh\u00ebm. Nuk kemi asnj\u00eb problem, me \u00e7far\u00eb na thon\u00eb doktor\u00ebt, thjesht s`ka ndodh. Mund t\u00eb vij\u00eb nes\u00ebr. Mund t\u00eb vij\u00eb pasnes\u00ebr. Po un\u00eb besoj tek nj\u00eb linj\u00eb e jet\u00ebs time q\u00eb rrug\u00ebn time e b\u00ebj un\u00eb. \u00cbsht\u00eb vet\u00ebm e imja. Ti ke rrug\u00ebn t\u00ebnde. Nj\u00eb n\u00ebn\u00eb tjet\u00ebr ndoshta b\u00ebhet n\u00ebn\u00eb 15 vje\u00e7e. Nj\u00eb n\u00ebn\u00eb b\u00ebhet 40 vje\u00e7e. Nuk duhet t`i fusim t\u00eb gjith\u00eb n\u00eb nj\u00eb filt\u00ebr. Tani martohesh. Nes\u00ebr duhet t\u00eb b\u00ebsh nj\u00eb f\u00ebmij\u00eb. Pasnes\u00ebr do b\u00ebsh nj\u00eb goc\u00eb e t\u00eb tjera me radh\u00eb. Besoj se jam k\u00ebtu p\u00ebr t\u00eb b\u00ebr\u00eb rrug\u00ebtimin tim.
F\u00ebmija \u00ebsht\u00eb bekim, thon\u00eb. Uroj ata q\u00eb i kan\u00eb. Uroj q\u00eb n\u00ebse ne do kemi, arsyeja e vetme q\u00eb dua t\u00eb kem nj\u00eb f\u00ebmij\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb t\u00eb di \u00e7far\u00eb mundem t\u00eb krijoj un\u00eb me Visin. Dua t\u00eb di \u00e7far\u00eb krijimi mund t\u00eb b\u00ebjm\u00eb ne.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Mira Kazhani: Jua uroj megjith\u00eb zem\u00ebr!<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Belina Pupa: Nuk e di, po nuk ndihem p\u00ebr momentin se m\u00eb mungon di\u00e7ka.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
Prej vitesh me humorin e tij, s\u00eb fundmi edhe me pjes\u00ebmarrjen n\u00eb \u201cBBV\u201d, Elvis Pupa \u00ebsht\u00eb nj\u00eb nga personazhet m\u00eb t\u00eb dashur p\u00ebr publikun. Pas nuk mbetet as partnerja e tij, Belina Pupa e cila s\u00eb fundmi ka b\u00ebr\u00eb nj\u00eb rr\u00ebfim ndryshe p\u00ebr podkastin \u201cZ\u00eb me Mir\u00ebn\u201d. N\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb rrefim t\u00eb saj Belina tregon nga […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":28201,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[33],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-32158","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-showbiz"},"yoast_head":"\n